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Keto Chow 2.0 update – protein should be shipping tomorrow

This entry is part 81 of 131 in the series Ketogenic Diet

OK, here’s the short version: manufacturing should start April 5th. I might have limited supplies of 2.0 by April 14.

On Friday I went to visit the manufacturing facility we’re using for Keto Chow 2.0 to pick some (unrelated) stuff up. While there, I learned that the Whey Protein Isolate distributor didn’t want to ship the Isolate until either (a) the Concentrate was already returned, or (b) the Isolate was paid for up-front and they would take their sweet time issuing a credit for the Concentrate. How much was the isolate? Roughly half the total cost and I had paid half already back in November. So, now I’ve paid for the whole thing! (seriously, let’s get this GOING!!!!).

I just talked to the manufacturing facility – they said the protein should ship tomorrow and take 5+ business days to arrive. Once it does, they have to pull a sample for testing (gotta make sure it doesn’t have any e-Coli, salmonella or other bad stuff) and then the fun begins. They’re planning on clearing the schedule so they can make it as quickly as possible. With any luck, we’ll be getting some as early as Friday, April 14 – if not then Monday, April 17th. They’re going to be making Chocolate first (crap, that means I need to drive the pallet of Peanut Flour down to the place that’s packaging the Chocolate Peanut Butter pretty soon). Not sure if they’ll be running week and sample sizes concurrently on different machines or what. We may be having a rather exciting next few weeks.

In related news, I have the second round of Keto Chow 2.0 already on order. I’d rather have way too much for a month or two then run out!

By |2017-03-27T15:48:03-06:00March 27th, 2017|Categories: Keto Chow|Tags: , , , , |0 Comments

Keto Chow has been added to the Cron-O-Meter Database, KC 2.0 update

This entry is part 80 of 131 in the series Ketogenic Diet

I like Cron-O-Meter. I think it works better than MyFitnessPal and has some really cool features designed specifically for doing Keto. You can read how to use Cron-O-Meter to track your net carbs in this post from January 2017. That post used to have links to files you could import into Cron-o-Meter database so you wouldn’t need to enter all the info from the label into a custom food. Dunno what alerted them but a few days ago I received an email through my site’s contact form – it was one of the guys from Cron-O-Meter saying I should publish my custom entries to the database so people wouldn’t have to import the files anymore. Well, yeah but I did that months ago and didn’t see anything happen, but I decided to give it a go, expecting things might move this time! Indeed they did. You can now find in the Cron-O-Meter database all of the different flavors for Keto Chow 1.9 and 2.0, plus the fish pills and the Base Powder. If you have an account, try it out! You can search for Keto Chow by name, or if you have the mobile app, you can use the barcode scanner because I got those in there too!

I’m super excited about this. It’ll make tracking easier for me and for the general public (mostly I’m excited for myself because I’m lazy =)

Now the question comes up: “When is Keto Chow 2.0 going to be ready?!” Better be soon, I just finished my test bags of 2.0 yesterday and I want more! We farmed out 4 of the bags we got in the first test batch to some of our employees and all of them really liked it. Of the 63 meals worth I was sharing with my awesome wife, I probably consumed 40-45 of them – enough that I am completely confident in Keto Chow 2.0. Anyway, I just talked to the manufacturer, he says the protein supplier “confirmed they have the Purchase Order” which doesn’t mean much. He says he’s going to try to get better info from the supplier today if he can. He did say they’ll be starting on the Base Powder early next week though.

By |2017-03-21T14:48:45-06:00March 21st, 2017|Categories: Keto Chow|Tags: , , , |0 Comments

All flavors back in stock, update on Keto Chow 2.0 availability timeline, KC2.0 certified “Keto Friendly”

This entry is part 78 of 131 in the series Ketogenic Diet

To start: Rich Chocolate and Chocolate Peanut Butter are back in stock. Yesterday we got our shipment of Rich Chocolate protein powder: 4 full pallets and a partial 5th one. 4000 lbs worth – that should last a little while at least =). The shipment came as “No Touch Freight” so we had to haul our pallet jack up into the trailer and move the pallets to the end. One of the businesses nearby has a forklift and was nice enough to unload the truck for us. Then it was a matter of taking a bunch of the chocolate to mix – which is what we did most of the afternoon and evening yesterday. It’s a relief to have everything in stock again and hopefully, this shipment will last us until after Keto Chow 2.0 comes out.

On that topic, everything is set up and ready for production of Keto Chow 2.0… except for the Whey Protein Isolate. We’re still trying to arrange swapping the concentrate that was bought for the first batch of isolate. I had expected it would all be resolved early last week but we’re still waiting. As soon as that comes in, production should start immediately. In the mean time, we’re going to have the Keto Chow “Base Powder” going into production sometime this week. It’s the same product as what we currently have, just with a different label. To that end, once we have the new Base Powder we will be discontinuing the “for 10lbs.” larger bag.

I have the revised and finalized labeling for Keto Chow 2.0 done and up on the KC2.0 Nutrition Page. You’ll notice that there’s now a green (KF) logo meaning it’s Keto Friendly. Keto Chow 2.0 one of the first products participating in the Certified Ketogenic project done by the KetoVangelist podcast crew – the “0001” means it’s actually the very first in the Keto Friendly category. Technically Keto Chow 1.9 is also Keto Friendly but I didn’t bother applying for it to be included… because 2.0 is supposed to be out already (dagnabbit!). The first round of Keto Chow 2.0 will have the old nutrition information with a “label correction” sticker that talks about the change to whey protein isolate and directs you online for updated information. All of the changes are positive but it does mess around with how big a serving is. Depending on the flavor, it varies from 46g up to 49g. Most people will just use the scoop to measure out a serving but for people like me that like precision or are doing 6 meals at a time, weighing it in a bowl is the best way to get exacting amounts.

Yesterday I added the Week and Sample/Individual Keto Chow 2.0 to the shopping cart. You can’t purchase either yet, I don’t like to have back orders or pre-orders (and credit card companies REALLY don’t like them). Trust me, when we’re getting close enough to be able to order – I’ll let you know through multiple channels =). The pricing for KC2.0 is finalized – all of the flavors except Peanut Butter are the same price, which should make things easier.

So when is Keto Chow 2.0 going to be available? If you look back to what I posted in October and November it’s been out since early December. For now, I’m saying that if everything goes perfectly (protein ships today or tomorrow, flavors are all in-stock, fine mesh xanthan gum arrives) we may have KC2.0 ready to ship out before the beginning of April 2017. If the protein is delayed, or something else goes wonky there will be a corresponding delay.

By |2017-03-14T09:48:13-06:00March 14th, 2017|Categories: Keto Chow|Tags: , , , |7 Comments

A full year of work: first test batch of Keto Chow 2.0 has arrived!

This entry is part 77 of 131 in the series Ketogenic Diet

Can I just say: I’m excited! It’s been over a year since I first started work on Keto Chow 2.0. Now I get to start testing it for a couple weeks as production begins.

 

By |2017-03-01T18:34:01-07:00March 1st, 2017|Categories: Keto Chow|Tags: , , |3 Comments

“Low Carb Show” Podcast Interview, Keto Chow 2.0 update

This entry is part 76 of 131 in the series Ketogenic Diet

Mark from the Low-Carb Show, contacted me a few weeks ago to see if I would like to do an interview for his podcast and the recording has just been posted. His wife sent him down the rabbit hole of Ketogenic Meal Replacement drinks and he found Keto Chow, ordered some, and enjoyed it enough to get me on his podcast to talk about Keto Chow, the progress of Keto Chow 2.0, Domain Squatters, Mac&Cheese, and a bunch of other stuff! I reference a post about Arches National Park in the podcast, I’ll save you the hassle of finding it: “Vacationing for a week (mostly) on DIY soylent” (you can see more of my Dad’s stuff here) – this is from about a month before I started doing Keto and was still doing “People Chow” which was primarily corn masa.

I keep telling my teenagers I’m “Internet Famous” – they still just roll their eyes.

It’s about time for an update on Keto Chow 2.0, wouldn’t you agree? This week we finally tackled the funny aftertaste problem for realsies. The Whey Protein Isolate we started experimenting with significantly reduced the bad flavor (so it was essentially non-existent)… for a few hours. If you tasted the mix anywhere from 30 minutes to 3-4 hours after mixing it would taste fine. For many people, this would be sufficient, but I like to mix up 3-4 days worth at a time so I can just grab them out of the fridge. I’ve said it before: I’m not going to sell a product I wouldn’t use (and enjoy using!), I’m pretty much my worst customer =). The time delay aspect was particularly vexing and pointed to some sort of ingredient interaction causing the issue. I got samples of each ingredient, mixed them up in water, both alone and in certain combinations. Straight potassium citrate isn’t particularly nice tasting.

Anyhow, the Isolate all by itself did not have any weird flavor, nothing really did… until I tasted the Enzyme Blend + Whey Protein combination. I discovered the flavor anomaly! The enzyme blend alone was fine, the breakdown of the lactose in the whey by the enzymes was most decidedly the problem and it got worse over 2 days. On Thursday we had new samples made that omitted the enzyme blend. I’m super happy to report that all of the flavors now taste exactly the way they’re supposed to, and with the “200 mesh” xanthan gum you can mix it without a blender and get good results – everything is coming up Milhouse! At least in KC 2.0.0 there isn’t going to be an enzyme blend. For most this won’t be an issue, but if you’re lactose intolerant you will want to consider using Lactaid or another enzyme blend. There are 0.58g of lactose in each serving of Keto Chow 2.0 thanks to the Whey Protein Isolate being super low in carbs. Adding 1/2 cup of heavy cream brings the lactose up to 3.31g.

This coming week we’ll make some bigger sample batches so I can start doing more extensive short-to-medium term tests as we gear up for full-on production; which I now expect to be starting (maybe) March 6 or later, not sure which flavors we’ll be doing first. The plan is that they’ll be mixing up all of the ingredients except the color and flavor in their giant mixer to make a base powder, then they can do smaller batches for the individual flavors. Anyhow, I’m super excited about the prospects of getting this going!

On a final note, this week I added a “Recipes and Flavor Hacks” page, check it out.

By |2017-02-25T10:49:43-07:00February 25th, 2017|Categories: Ketogenic Diet, Keto Chow|Tags: , , , , , , |3 Comments

Keto Chow 2.0 Status Update (good news!)

TL;DR: major progress, gotta wait on the old protein to go back and get new stuff, production might start as early as next week (or not).

Yesterday I had the day off so we did some work on Keto Chow 2.0. We received some test samples of the different flavors using a different whey protein. The short version of the story is: we were going to be using a whey protein concentrate (80% protein) but there was a rather severe metallic aftertaste when we used the actual protein that was purchased in bulk. We decided to try a different brand from the same distributor (so we could apply credit for the returned concentrate) and instead of concentrate, we got whey protein isolate that’s 90% protein. The isolate is going to be more expensive (for me to buy, price will be the same) but it tastes good, has more protein, and actually has fewer carbs (win!). Specifically, the isolate has 1/3 the carbs with 2g per 100g instead of 6g, and 90g of protein compared to 79g. The bad news is the nutrition on the labels isn’t going to match what’s actually in there (the good news is it’s better than what’s on the label!) – for this first batch I don’t have the resources to have them redone so there will be a sticker directing you to the website for updated information. We’re working on returning the concentrate and getting the isolate delivered, I’m guessing that will take a week. When production starts I’ll update the Keto Chow 2.0 nutrition page with the new information.

We also ran into some issues with the viscosity of the mix. It would mix up pretty thin and watery in a blender bottle but use an actual blender or immersion blender and it thickens right up! I’m still waiting on a reply from my 2:00 am email about my theory but I think the issue is the co-packer used a granulated xanthan gum instead of the fine powder we have been using. This caused the xanthan gum to not fully integrate and there was a slight “tapioca” texture. My guess is we just need to switch xanthan gum form factor and it’ll be good for blender or blender bottle.

The flavors all tested extremely well with 2 people telling me to get the problems resolved NOW so they can order a bag of the Salted Caramel flavor! I even had my children do a tasting session, because that’s how we do market research… or something =)

For any interested, here are the differences between the concentrate I was going to use and the isolate I will be using per 100g:

per 100g Concentrate Isolate Difference Unit
Calories 400 379 -21 kCal
Calories From Fat 40 11 -29 kCal
Total Fat 4.5 1.2 -3.3 g
Saturated Fat 3 0.7 -2.3 g
Trans Fat 0 0 +0 g
Cholesterol 200 8 -192 mg
Sodium 450 143 -307 mg
Total Carbohydrate 6 2 -4 g
Sugars 3.5 2 -1.5 g
Protein 79 90 +11 g
Vitamin A 0 80 +80 IU
Calcium 470 480 +10 mg
Iron 0.52 0 -0.52 mg
Alanine 3.94 4.6 +0.66 g
Arginine 8.15 2.1 -6.05 g
Aspartic Acid 10.4 9.7 -0.7 g
Cystine 0.54 2.6 +2.06 g
Glutamic Acid 15.99 17.1 +1.11 g
Glycine 4.3 1.6 -2.7 g
Histidine 2.37 1.5 -0.87 g
Isoleucine 4.92 5.6 +0.68 g
Leucine 10.5 9.7 -0.8 g
Lysine 8.22 9.7 +1.48 g
Methionine 1.01 2 +0.99 g
Phenylalanine 5.52 2.9 -2.62 g
Proline 4.31 5.5 +1.19 g
Serine 5.14 3.7 -1.44 g
Threonine 3.65 6.1 +2.45 g
Tryptophan 0.96 1.6 +0.64 g
Tyrosine 3.91 2.7 -1.21 g
Valine 5.51 4.6 -0.91 g
By |2017-02-14T08:50:59-07:00February 14th, 2017|Categories: Keto Chow|Tags: , , , |3 Comments

Update on Keto Chow 2.0 – another delay, but there’s hope!

To recap for those who don’t live and breathe this stuff:

  • I’m in the final stages of having Keto Chow produced at a contract manufacturer.
  • Keto Chow 2.0 differs from Keto Chow 1.9 on the protein/flavor/sweetener – I’m not able to get Dymatize Elite in 500KG batches so by necessity we have to get our own stuff to replace it. The most obvious difference will be the flavoring in KC2.0 will be our own stuff.

Anyhow, we ran into a problem with the manufacturing. I had the co-packer make me some new test batches and the flavors came back really weird. Initially, I thought it was the potassium chloride we added but after extensive testing, it turned out to be a problem in the protein powder. The initial tests they did were with a random equivalent protein powder and the new samples were straight from the bulk powder they purchased for our batches. We’ve gone back and tried some different flavoring and some bitter masking agents but to no avail.

I’m not going to sell a product I don’t love. It has to have a “wow, that was really good, I want more!” going for it or it’s not going to be released.

So, as of today, we’re going to use a different protein powder from a different manufacturer. It’s likely this will add some to the cost, I’m hoping it’s less than $1-2 and we’re still aiming to have KC2.0 cost less than KC1.9. This means that Keto Chow 2.0 is going to be delayed. If we can find a direct drop-in replacement for the protein powder it may be as little as a week before we get things going.

We’re coming up on almost a year since I decided to start this endeavor – I hope we can be shipping 2.0 well before Fed 15th.


Update!

This morning we headed down to the manufacturer to work on the problem. We brought along a Keto Chow 1.9 rich chocolate in powder form, a bag of Dymatize Rich Chocolate for comparison, and a blender bottle of mixed Chocolate Peanut Butter. He had complained that it didn’t taste very good and he didn’t feel confident evaluating the mixes so when he had the Chocolate Peanut Butter (with the heavy cream) he was astonished in the extreme “Oh wow, that’s actually really good” – yep that’s the goal! We did a bunch of various tests combining different stuff together but the most telling test was when we tasted the plain whey protein in water… and the bad taste was there! After that, he said he was going to go back to the distributor and get a refund and/or exchange it for a different protein. He said the protein guys may send out a food scientist to work on the problem but ideally, we may have a solution (maybe) quickly.

Another Step Closer to Keto Chow 2.0

This entry is part 72 of 131 in the series Ketogenic Diet

Yesterday we picked up the large “week” bags from the printer and delivered them to the manufacturing facility.

At this point, there’s very little left to do to get going:

  • They still need to do some quality control tests of the full recipe stack to make sure it tastes the way it should.
  • I need to sample the tests.
  • If there are problems, re-test.

I’m hopeful we can get full production going this week or next week. While we were there, I snapped a picture of the mixing machine they’ll be using, ladder for scale:

By |2017-01-17T08:17:20-07:00January 17th, 2017|Categories: Keto Chow|Tags: , , |0 Comments

Tracking Net Carbs and more using Cron-O-Meter

This entry is part 69 of 131 in the series Ketogenic Diet

One of my main New Year resolutions is not to eat anything until AFTER I have it entered into a tracking app. In the past I’ve used MyFitnessPal (hereafter referred to as MFP) – it works fine, has pretty good social sharing so friends can see what you want them to see; and they have a massive user-contributed database of foods. The website and app are free (though they hit you up pretty hard to buy the premium membership). It’s kinda like the wild west so far as their food database is concerned, though: anybody can add any food with any information. If you look in MFP for “Keto Chow” you’ll find several dozen entries, some that I made =) MFP does have some serious shortcomings though. First and largest is that user-contributed database, it has a lot of good stuff in there but it also has a lot of junk: entries with incorrect or incomplete information, duplicates, and more, including linking barcodes to incorrect products. Sure there’s an entry for food X, but you have to verify the information – it’s about the same as entering it yourself anyway, advantage lost. MFP also doesn’t know how to track net carbs, only total carbohydrates (including fiber). There is a Chrome browser script that you can use to add net carbs to MFP but it doesn’t work with mobile and is a bit of a hack.

By comparison, there’s Cron-O-Meter (hereafter referred to as CM) – free via browser, paid as an app with barcode scanning. The biggest difference with CM is the food database is curated – it only has validated, correct entries. It also has a lot more detailed information. You can add your own foods and recipes that combine foods together – if you buy the “gold” membership you can share foods and recipes with friends. CM also added a Ketogenic Diet mode back in March 2016 (I even posted to /r/keto about it =) – it’ll help you track net carbs and other nutrients. Set your macronutrient targets and go! I recommend CM over MFP for these two features alone. The problem becomes: How do you get custom foods into CM? I have the process for getting Keto Chow officially added to the database going but that could take years! The solution is to add it yourself with some handy information I’ll give you.

To start off, you’re going to want to add an entry for just the 50g of Keto Chow powder. You can refer to the entry I created for Keto Chow 1.9 Rich Chocolate. If you add new food, there’s a gear icon on the far right that you can import a JSON file with the nutritional information so you don’t have to type it all.

UPDATE: The developer of Cron-O-Meter contacted me and said I should just submit all the flavors for publication in the general database. I had previously tried that but nothing ever happened. About 15 minutes after I submitted them they were approved and ready to use. So you can now simply search for “Keto Chow” in Cron-o-Meter! END UPDATE.

I was excited to find an entry already in CM for “Darigold, Whipping Cream, Heavy Classic 40%” which is the stuff I get from Costco in 2-quart packages. BUT the entry was missing a key element: the 0.48g of carbs per serving I know are in there. The solution was to find the USDA entry for “Cream, fluid, heavy whipping” and edit a copy with the specific values on the Darigold label (since the Darigold has more calories and fat at 40% fat instead of the standard 36%) see here for the complete entry I created.

OK, so you have an entry for the powder and the heavy cream. You can enter the powder and cream separately every day (tedious) or you can bundle the heavy cream into a “recipe” with the powder. I created a recipe that includes the powder, heavy cream and MCT oil (since I use MCT oil, I’ve been at this 2 years =) – you can check it out here. Now every time I want to add Rich Chocolate Keto Chow the way I like to mix it up, I just add 1 full recipe of “Keto Chow 1.9 Rich Chocolate plus 50ml heavy cream and MCT”. What about Chocolate Peanut Butter? Since it’s my #1 favorite flavor of all time you gotta know I have a recipe for that too! I made a custom food entry for “Peanut Flour Light Roast 28%“. I cloned the Rich Chocolate recipe and added 10g of the peanut flour to give me “Keto Chow 1.9 Peanut Butter plus 50ml heavy cream and MCT“. In case you’re curious, here are the entries for KC2.0 Chocolate+heavy cream and MCT and the corresponding KC2.0 Chocolate Peanut Butter. Finally, make sure you are getting your Ω-3 fatty acids – here’s an entry for the new Keto Chow Fish Oil pills .

One thing to note about CM: If you edit a food entry you created, the change will propagate back to previous days. This is handy for fixing an error you discovered but sucks for revisions. The solution is to edit a copy of the food, then “retire” the outdated one. The existing entries will remain unchanged and the old food will not show up as a suggested entry when you add food to your diary.

Here are my entries for yesterday (January 2, 2017):

The target values were derived from the Keto Macro Calculator coupled with some details I got from my DEXA scan last year.

 

 

Might have a final timeline for Keto Chow 2.0

We’re now expecting Keto Chow 2.0 in the first half of January 2017. It’s a bit of a setback but we’re going to take advantage of it. We found out that the flavor manufacturer didn’t actually start production 2 weeks ago when we told them to. It’s going to be a solid 4 weeks before the flavor is available for manufacturing so we’re going to use the delay and get the fully printed bags instead of a label on a white bag. The final product is going to be pretty slick with both the large week bags and the individual meals in fully printed packaging.

In other news: There was a question about Mocha and whether it will have caffeine and/or actual coffee in it. Turns out it was just using coffee flavoring. Based on feedback I’ve gotten, we’re instead going to use instant coffee powder + caffeine. Whether it’s good or not I don’t know – personally, I can’t get over how much coffee smells like burnt toast (I also think cucumbers smell like glass cleaner). Anyhow, the manufacturer refers to the new one as “Mocha (stim)” so I guess you junkies will be able to get your coffee fix =).

Finally, we might have a solution for the Chocolate Peanut Butter samples. It’s still tentative but we may have a place that can package them.

 

Here’s what the printed week bags will look like:

For comparison, here are the “sample” individual meals:

By |2019-05-23T08:20:47-06:00December 2nd, 2016|Categories: Keto Chow|Tags: , , |0 Comments